The suspected killer didnt charge them for the photos, they said. And police cadaver dogs absolutely searched that barn. Allen, 50, who worked as a pharmacy technician at CVS in Delphi, a town of about 3,000 people, has been charged with two counts of murder. CARROLL COUNTY, Ind. The sister of one of the Delphi victims has welcomed the news that a suspect has finally been charged with the murders more than five years after her sister and her best friend were found dead after going on a hike. Well there are definitely four people involved in the larger conspiracy. Could it be that Mr. F told J and Misters P, Q, and B about his plight with the girl who would not abort? 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This double homicide occurred in 2017, but it is still unsolved. The police line appears to be that further details will be provided as and when appropriate as the investigation proceeds. The abducter(s)/murderer(s) wouldve needed more privacy than the woods could provide, especially given the proximity to area homes by the creekside. Officials thanked the public for their help in catching the suspect and urged people to continue to come forward with any information about the case. Info that did not come from the police in that section is italicized. Police release video, sketch and audio of suspect in Delphi double murder, New details in Delphi double murder investigation revealed in police interview obtained by podcast, Police investigating Delphi murders search for anyone who talked to man using anthony_shots profile. Google The Delphi murders/reddit/images. The murderer was or is definitely local or at least knew the trail. The walkway they crossed was pretty damaged and he must have had prior experience of walking it, as he crossed it pretty quickly. Mr Allen, 50, has pleaded not guilty to the charges and is said to be refusing to cooperate with the investigation. She continued to urge anyone with information about the case to submit a tip to abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com or 765-822-3535. Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland had previously asked a judge to keep all court records from the public even before he filed murder charges. (1/12/23) MORE, By ARLEIGH RODGERS Associated Press/Report for America DELPHI, Ind. A MAN was reportedly arrested in connection to the murders of 14-year-old Liberty German and 13-year-old Abigail Williams who were killed in 2017. Best of all, much of our information is via solid sources such as search party members, official case documents, and LE sources close to the investigation. Authorities conducted a nationwide search and received over 26k tips in the first year, but with scarce evidence, the killer was never found. Hi, Robert. 2023 www.indystar.com. DELPHI, Ind. And perhaps an older man these young men knew, a 49 year old man named Mr. X, got into the mix somehow. The 14 year old had a cousin, M., who was taking her to bonfire parties where there was a lot of drugs and drinking for a few years from 12-14. Investigators executed a search warrant of Allen's home Oct. 13, 2022, where they found jackets, boots, knives, and guns. It also shows that police read our website and are onto us and our sleuthing group. Perhaps J, Mr. P, and Mr. Q, the unknown third man were actually involved in the planning of this crime and instead of intending to terrorize the 14 year old girl, they actually intended to murder her. The warrant says it is likely the killer had blood stains on his clothes, although no one has ever been arrested for the girls' murders. Five years ago today, in Delphi, Ind., two best friends, Abigail Williams, 13, and Liberty German, 14, went missing while on a Youd never think [hes a murderer] in a million years.. Instead statements are posed as hypotheticals, theories, possible theories, and above all questions. According to WTHR journalist Emily Longnecker, Libbys grandparents Mike and Becky Patty recall Mr Allen processing photos for them at the store. The witness told investigators it appeared he had gotten into a fight. There is tentatively a press conference Monday at 10 am. Rachel Sharp has been following the case. "He created a completely false persona for himself," Kevin Greenlee, co-host of The Murder Sheet, said. Judge issues gag order following release of redacted court docs in arrest of Richard Allen for Delphi murders, Here's a timeline of major developments in the Delphi murders case, 'The likelihood for a tainted jury pool is excessive' | Richard Allen's attorneys file motion for change of venue in trial, In the video recorded from German's phone, one of the victims mentions "gun.". If not, I get it, believe me! She was in the early stages of pregnancy. Fixed.). If the source was giving us nonsense and lies, the police would not care at all. Members of the public were urged to continue to submit tips not only about Richard Allen but about any other information regarding the case. He subsequently pleaded not guilty and is being held without bond. The podcast hosts say it's unclear what officers are looking for in that river. It was the last known photo of Abby before she was killed. I received more abuse for this statement than for anything else I wrote about this crime. *, We got him. Yes, although I would call him the 20 year old man. Its concerning that hes a local guy, Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland said upon Allens arrest. Richard Allen, 50, pleaded not guilty to the charges at an initial hearing and is being held without bond at White County Jail. But maybe they have cracked. The Indiana State Police did confirm there is a dive team in the area and that it is located a few miles from 28-year-old Kegan Kline's family home. I just cant get behind all of these people being involved. Obviously, quickly taken down, etc etc. The 50-year-old married man arrested last week in connection with the 2017 Delphi murders has now been charged more than five years on from the double slayings of teenage best friends Libby German and Abby Williams. All rights reserved. He has a criminal record mostly for repeated drunk driving offenses. VIDEO: Bond hearing for Richard Allen is et for Feb. 17. JPs huge drone under the bridge the day before was very convincing to me that he was a private eye doing surveillance for a possible drug bust. Aside from that, the family members said they didnt know Mr Allen but in a close-knit town of just 3,000 people had likely encountered him on other occasions over the last five years. The resemblance was uncanny; so much so that his arrest really set off alarm bells for those that had been closely following the Delphi case. After his arrest in Union City, Randolph County officials shared Eldridge's information with the FBI, informing them that a link to Delphi might be possible. This task force has worked diligently the last five and a half years to ensure this horrendous crime did not go unsolved. The grandfather of victim Libby German has spoken out about learning that his granddaughters suspected killer was hiding in plain sight in the close-knit Delphi community this whole time. On Wednesday, October 26, 2022, detectives with the Delphi Double Homicide Task Force took Richard Allen, 50, from Delphi Indiana into custody at the Indiana State Police Lafayette Post for the murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German. Note: All of the information below came to us from the police except for whatever is in italics. Scripps I did not figure out who the man was in the tan pants with light blue shirt and a hand gun. Libby, 14, and Abby, 13, were murdered after setting off on a hike along the Monon High Bridge Trail in Delphi on 13 February 2017. I'm not keen to see them but am curious if anyone here had a chance to see them before they were taken down? Police confirmed that the case was a double homicide, but have not revealed how the girls died or what evidence they collected. The next day Valentines Day 2017 their bodies were discovered in a wooded area around half a mile off the trail. She said he had dark and evil eyes. The Independent will be post live updates on this blog. The police think he is the man who actually conducted the murders, and they A potential break in the murders of Delphi, Indiana girls: investigators have been seen searching the Wabash River near the Peru home of Kegan Kline. I would talk; he wouldnt say much. 00:50, Rachel Sharp. I am very sorry for the horrible details I will lay out here, but remember the reaction of LE to this crime at the first press conference and how shaken up they were? A photo has revealed how the local man charged with the 2017 Delphi murders posed for a smiling selfie in front of a police sketch of the suspected killer. Delphi murder victims family reveal chilling encounter with suspect Richard Allen, Monday 31 October 2022 19:10 , Rachel Sharp. The Delphi murders autopsy report remains sealed to this day, authorities say to protect the ongoing investigation. There is also a question whether he was just the Catfish Boy or whether he played a larger role than that, to quote our source. The witness said she also saw a man matching the one in German's video. "Guys, down the hill," the man says on the recording. ", He said: "Somebody out there knows who this person is. The pair of eighth-graders spent the afternoon posting photos of their journey on Facebook. Investigators previously shared the audio and video released to the public came from Libby German's phone. The other three had varying levels of participation that could be peripheral and innocent or some degree of worse. Superintendent Carter says further details or documents will not be released regarding the arrest today is not that day. Perhaps word got out that if this girl became obviously pregnant, and the 14 year old girls male guardian was threatening to either harm or kill Mr. F or lock him up. Close friends with J and Misters B, Q, and F. Police say he is a possible suspect in this crime. The trail is located in a secluded area of Delphi, Indiana, and spans eight miles of densely populated woods. On Feb. 14, 2017, Libby German, 14, and Abby Williams, 13, were killed while biking on trails near Delphi, about 60 miles northwest of Indianapolis. This sub is for discussion of the case that's come to be known as the Delphi Murders. The secret was that the 14 year old girl was pregnant, and she had told the 13 year old. Let us assume that a 20 year old man, Mr. F, impregnated the 14 year old girl. In an interview with police, Allen said he never let anyone borrow or use his pistol, according to the affidavit. Thanks. Monday 31 October 2022 14:27 , Oliver O'Connell. pic.twitter.com/dJMlOj3Whs, Kelsi German (@libertyg_sister) October 31, 2022, Monday 31 October 2022 15:30 , Rachel Sharp. Notifications can be turned off anytime in the browser settings. However, Supt Carter added that today is not a day to celebrate as Libby and Abbys families are still forced to go on without them. On Oct. 31, 2022, police announced they arrested and charged 50-year-old Delphi resident Richard Allen with two counts of murder in the deaths of Libby and Abby. For some odd reason, the father of the baby is apparently not a suspect! Our investigation revealed that both of those girls were sexually active in terms of PIV sex, so getting pregnant was definitely a possible thing. Until now. Required fields are marked *. German's older sister, Kelsi posted on Twitter on October 28, writing: "Just know how grateful I am for all of you. Close friends with Misters P, B, Q, and F. Listed as a possible suspect in the crime. It is a hypothesis we are considering, but it has no direct evidence to back it up at the moment. Fridays rulings are the latest update in the small Midwestern communitys nearly six-year ordeal that began when Liberty and Abigails bodies were discovered on Delphi Historic Trails on Valentines Day 2017 one day after they went missing during a school holiday. Seventh, We are not referring to either girl by name below, however, there seems to be some confusion about which girl was the focus of the crime. One of the witnesses said the man they saw matched the description of the photograph of the man seen on German's phone. The defense and prosecution now have one week to select a county where they can begin to choose a jury. Will it lead to solving the murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German?0:00 The Delphi Murders5:40 The Investigation9:42 Leigh Kerr12:27 The Criminal ProfileSOURCES: https://pastebin.com/LZjy3tHr#truecrime #DelphiMurders #AbbyandLibby If you can imagine how horrendous a girl in that condition may have seen to those who discovered her, can you now start to understand why the police at that first press conference all looked so freaked out? Most of them looked like they had just seen a ghost. ", RELATED |Police investigating Delphi murders search for anyone who talked to man using anthony_shots profile. The serial killer expert lives near me. Maybe they told people they just wanted to scare the girls. I don't think there's multiple pieces of the puzzle. I always thought maybe they did, but I never knew they took us so seriously. That was supposedly from a rap song. Most importantly, all of this information comes to me from members of my sleuthing group. Authorities say the investigation is still underway but they plan to release additional information at a press conference on October 31, 2022. Mr Allen was arrested on Wednesday before being charged on Friday with two counts of murder. Company. During the walk, Libby posted a photo of her best friend walking along the Monon High Bridge. After an extensive investigation, the Delphi Double Homicide Task Force made an arrest for the murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German. Mr. F was looking at possible incarceration for banging a 14 year old girl and then 18 years of child support. Hes named Mr. F as in Mr. Father. He has been incredibly helpful to us. In addition, a young man seen by a female witness at the south side of the bridge at 12:30 PM in the day of the murders. In the press conference, officials would not rule out the possibility that other individuals were also involved in the brutal murders of Libby German and Abby Williams and vowed that if the investigation leads them to other suspects they will also face charges. In a move that propelled the investigation forward, Libby German captured a grainy video on her phone of a man dressed in blue jeans, a blue jacket and a cap walking along the Judge Frances C. Gull decided at a 10-minute hearing that the high-profile trial of Richard Matthew Allen would occur in Carroll County despite his attorneys previous request to relocate the proceedings, ABC reported. There is a crime scene photo of a scalpel at the scene which we are trying to get a hold of. A witness told investigators he saw a small, dark-colored SUV parked on the side of the old Child Protective Service building Feb. 13, 2017, and believed the vehicle was backed in to conceal the license plate. One wonders how this killer could have had enough medical knowledge to conduct a Jack the Ripper like operation on a victim. Second, warning: I will be discussing some truly horrendous and even disgusting things below, so if you cant handle it, dont read. View in new tab here. They are known as the Delphi Murders. Later that day, the teenagers were reported missing when they failed to return to a spot where a family member was picking them up. Mr Carter officially confirmed that Mr Allen was arrested on Friday. Autopsies on the girls' bodies were conducted but the only information released to the public was the girls were found in a pool of blood, although a recording was recovered of the potential killer's voice. Just like a normal guy that Ive seen for the last couple years, not really thinking anything.. (11/29/22) MORE, VIDEO: Prosecutors in the case of murdered teen girls Abby Williams and Libby German say defendant Richard Allen may have had an accomplice. The Delphi murders have confounded investigators in the five years since Williams and German's bodies were found and in 2018, the head of the Indiana State Police Office, Doug Carter, told the IndyStar that he believed they were "one piece of the puzzle away from figuring out who this individual is. Although there were no suspects at the time, the FBI obtained a search warrant after new evidence came to light. Monday 31 October 2022 15:50 , Rachel Sharp. Your email address will not be published. They took photos as they crossed an old rail bridge, and two of these images were uploaded to Snapchat. Another witness said she was on the trails Feb. 13, 2017, with video from the Hoosier Harvestore confirming her vehicle near the entrance at 1:46 p.m. She told investigators she saw four girls walking on the bridge as she was driving underneath on her way to park. Indiana State Police announced at a press conference on Monday morning, Chicago police chief, U.S. attorney resign after Mayor Lori Lightfoot loses reelection. Lafayette Journal & Courier's Ron Wilkins contributed to this report. What we know and don't after Delphi information release, Your California Privacy Rights / Privacy Policy. For the first time, the warrant also revealed that the teenagers had been killed by some type of weapon. Fourth, The term guardian below refers to either a mother, a grandmother, or a grandfather. A lot of people are saying this. "And then, of course, weaponry that could have been used in the Delphi murders and any other evidence that could tie a killer to the scene or of the crime, essentially.". Richard Allen, a 50-year-old married Delphi man, was taken into custody on Wednesday (26 October) and booked into Carroll County Jail. How about this for a hypothesis? The case had gone unsolved for years, with no leads or suspects charged with the murders of the eighth graders. Mr. Q: Another young man, friends with J and Misters F, B, and P, who helped set up the bizarre crime scene. Richard Allen has been pictured in his mugshot following his arrest for the 2017 murders of Libby German and Abby Williams in Delphi. They vanished the day before, having last been seen walking along the Manon High Bridge in the Delphi Historic Trails. Police also believe that he helped set up the scary and bizarre crime scene. The first speaker at the press conference is Doug Carter, superintendent of the Indiana State Police. Carter said in a press conference: "We know a lot about you today could be the day -- sleep well.". To inquire about a licence to reproduce material, visit our Syndication site. He was always nice. What if perhaps Mr. F was pressuring the girl to abort the baby, and the girl was balking? The family of one of the Delphi victims has revealed that they had a chilling encounter with the man accused of her murder as they learned that he had been hiding in plain sight the whole time. Didnt know, I dont know the gentleman personally at all. Obviously, quickly taken down, The Hunting Shack-where the 3 boys would have had sex with them while wearing condoms. A special judge ordered the release of a redacted version of a document detailing the reasons for charging Richard Allen in the 2017 murders of Libby German and Abby Williams in Delphi. Investigators believe Allen was not seen on the trail after 2:13 p.m. on Feb. 13, 2017, because he was in the woods with German and Williams. FBI Indianapolis shared this statement in response to those claims: "As stated in the past this is a complex multi-agency investigation. Libbys grandfather told reporters on Monday that his granddaughters accused killer had been hiding in plain sight the whole time. He is now a 21 year old man. He described the We are uncertain of his role in the crime, except that he may have foreknowledge of the crime by a couple of hours. Example video title will go here for this video. Some things will be stated as fact. A pre-trial hearing has been preliminarily scheduled for January with a trial date set for March. I am proud to say that today actually last Friday that today is the day. These pictures from the Delphi murders featured the bridge and the surrounding countryside. That came to us either from rumors, our own investigations, good sources other than the police, or simply our own hypotheses. And this girl may indeed have been using drugs from ages 12-14, although we are not certain about this. *All criminal defendants are to be presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Monday 31 October 2022 14:13 , Oliver O'Connell, Richard Allen is facing two counts of murder in the Delphi Investigation @WNDU pic.twitter.com/FE4U1npkyp, Lauren Moss WNDU (@LMossWNDU) October 31, 2022, Monday 31 October 2022 14:11 , Oliver O'Connell. What are your thoughts on the Mears Barn being the site of this terrible attack? Though no further arrests have been made, prosecutors previously stated that Allen, a local CVS worker who liked playing pool at a nearby bar, may not have acted alone. In addition, almost everything we get is not posed to us as a fact. The affidavit indicates it has eight pages, but only seven were released Tuesday. However, a female search party member has stated that one girls abdominal cavity was excavated. All he had to do was remove the placenta. A lot of the information below will be stated in a similar way as it came to us from our source. I just donated! The implication that an alleged clerical error by an FBI employee caused years of delay in identifying thisdefendantis misleading. 3. We think we do a good job of that, but if you want to attack us on the basis that our info comes in cryptic statements and riddles we dont put together the puzzles properly, you are free to do that. Monday 31 October 2022 14:40 , Oliver O'Connell. The following information did not come to us from the police. If any other person had any involvement in the murders in any way, that person will be held accountable, said Indiana State Police Supt Doug Carter. He called me a few weeks ago in the morning and we talked at length about the crime. An affidavit unsealed by a judge earlier Indiana Lt Governor Suzanne Crouch has spoken out about the development in the Delphi case. Our source was adamant about that. Kline has denied any involvement in the murders. Allen, 50, made headlines in October when he was arrested and charged with two counts of murder in the February 2017 deaths of Liberty German, 14, and Abigail Williams, 13. Support the best Delphi sleuthing group of all! 1. "What we're hearing from sources indicates that this is connected," said Aine Cain, co-host of The Murder Sheet. Here are new details from the probable cause affidavit on the Delphi murders: NOTE: 13News is aware of media reports claiming a clerical error led to a delay in arresting Allen. We call him Mr. Q because his identity is not known at this time. Remember those rumors about one girl being gutted and partially disembowled with a gut knife? -- There may be a potential break in the unsolved murders of two teenage girls in Delphi, Indiana. And I think we're one piece away one piece.". It was my understanding that a local news channel had posted 1 crime scene photo to their Facebook page, and that it was of clothing in the creek. WebIn this special installment of True Crime Daily The Podcast: An update on the Delphi murder case. A Carroll County Sheriff's Department detective, who has been part of the investigation since it started, believes the evidence gathered shows that Allen is the man seen on the video from German's phone who forced the girls down the hill. Libby German, 14, and Abby Wiliams, 13, went missing on 13 February 2017 after they set off on a hike along the Monon High Bridge Trail in Delphi, Indiana. The murderer would have been covered in the victims blood in the aftermath of the slayings due to the large amount of blood was lost by the victims at the crime scene, it reads. WebIt was my understanding that a local news channel had posted 1 crime scene photo to their Facebook page, and that it was of clothing in the creek. The killings of teens Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, in February 2017 have drawn international attention. 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